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4/96, from Mary Morken
I think we need to keep learning about this; it could be new opportunity for us all; it could be something we would need to fight politically. I have learned that 65% of expense of MT companies is salaries; thus saving on labor is a very big factor to consider even for businesses that are not greedy. I showed Bill's list to someone at a company doing this; they said they had an answer to everyone of his objections.

I do know that the large MT companies can only keep making a profit now if they keep growing in size for two reasons, they say: Healthcare industry cutbacks (doctors have decreased salaries 10% in last few years) and competition with more MT companies bidding. Doctors have been dealing with this in their field for years, with the influx of doctors from other countries into the USA, robbing other countries of their finest doctors. We have to think about how much we want government to control these things and how much we want freedom for individuals to choose; there's a price to be paid either direction.


4/96, from Mary Morken
Perhaps we will need a two-party political system for MTs, reflecting the differences among Americans-at-large on this question, protectionism vs free trade. But here we are participating in global communications and tumbling into the future willynilly, and no one really knows where it is leading, because while the past is helpful, this is unlike anything in the past! The best thinkers say this change is of revolutionary proportions, whether for good or ill. Like farming to industry. Our work is so linked with communications technologies that it is going to be affected in those proportions as well.

So we need the best thinking we can do or find during this transition, to overcome our fears, to treat each other right in the midst of our differences, to sharpen our ideas together, to figure out how to protect ourselves, to figure out how to protect our interests as MTs, to figure out how to protect our national interests, while at least considering how we are going to treat the Indian MTs and Irish MTs and others who will be on this forum soon enough, and what our vision for the world should be, as well as our vision for America.


From Gail McClendon
Lots of opinions have been expressed regarding this subject; however, if the tide indeed turns that way, our opinions will net absolutely nothing. We could all be absolutely united in our opinion one way or the other, and the entrepreneurs out there would move ahead without us. Our best course of action is to be informed and increase in strength. Where is our power base? We don't really have one. Individually perhaps we can do something, but not as a whole. AAMT could make a difference now. If an idea like this came up regarding other industries, the government would tack costs on to discourage undercutting USA employees. THEY (in the government) probably don't have any more idea what an MT does than anyone else. No one seems to except MTs or students/potential MTs who dropped out because it was too difficult.

Interesting that this trend to overseas transcription is the polar opposite of the trend toward the E&O question. An MT outside the USA would have absolutely no deep pockets; ergo no liability. What a can of worms would be opened there. So as some espouse the liability issue on our own soil with our own well-trained MTs, others are outsourcing to people beyond our laws.


From Mary Morken
We do need to be cautious about the possible unforeseen bad results of doing "good". like my missionary surgeon friend who talked the government of Zaire into having the army give blood to set an example to the whole country, because people were dying in surgery without enough blood, he was giving his own blood live during surgeries to save lives! But this was in the 70s and we didn't know about AIDS yet, and the army had many with HIV.

I'd love to "fix" the world if I could; in fact, I was a social worker during race riots of 1966 in Chicago, so I need cold hard reasons to balance my heart. I've learned not to hold on too tight to my tentative conclusions about political strategy issues; must always "stand ready to be corrected!"

We need more counsel on this subject of overseas MT work. I'll keep posting what I can find on MT Daily, send anything you think would be helpful.


From Mary Morken, 4/96:
I have learned that over 60% of the cost of MT companies is salaries. Thus overseas cheaper labor represents a large factor in the whole picture of financial feasibility. As for the fact that they are training MTs from scratch in other countries, it is the same for MTs in America, we all had to start from somewhere. I think it is important for the training and proofreading to be thorough, but we need more of that in the USA too.
From Bill Lupinacci 4/96:
Overseas medical transcription has one big advantage: cheaper labor. How many of you believe that your prices are the only reason you were able to get the clients you have now? How many of you believe that your prices are even the most important reason you got and are able to keep you clients?

Overseas medical transcriptionists almost always have:
1. Poorer access to competant trainers.
2. Political instability.
3. More frequent telecommunication line interruptions.
4. Accents that make it harder for the clients to understand the MT.
5. Poorer understanding of spoken American English.
6. Almost nonexistent knowledge of regional colloquialisms.
7. Less access to sources of new medical terminology.
8. More expensive quality transcription hardware and software.
9. No ability to provide face-to-face personal service.
10. Coordination and communications problems due to time-zone differences. 11. Zero years of experience.

The reduced labor costs advantage is significantly reduced by higher costs in other areas that are necessary to do business overseas. Some of these include:

1. Dramatically higher telecommunications costs.
2. More expensive quality computer hardware and software.
3. Kickbacks to corrupt government officials in the third world.
4. Hugh travel costs for management.
The reduced price to the doctor can only be a fraction of the reduced costs of overseas labor; otherwise there would be no increase in profits to the investors and therefore no reason to risk going overseas.

All that said, many U.S. jobs will still be replaced across time by overseas labor. But, every U.S. MT can help keep their jobs here in the U.S. by working smarter with more personalized service, better training and knowledge, and better technology.


From Mary Morken, 4/96:
"Offshore" isn't really a good term for this; better kept for offshore oil drilling I'd say. But it's been used to refer to having people in other countries do transcription for American doctors and hospitals by phone and digital voice compression and satellite and modem and all that new-fangled stuff. They use venture capital to get started or to expand. The money they spend on the technology is saved on the cheap labor. They train the overseas MTs. I've got a great idea for new MTs who can't get a starting position, or for those who want to learn MT and can't afford the expensive programs: Travel to Madras or Banglor India for a year and you will be on a virtual scholarship with guaranteed employment! I know of no such program in the USA, does anyone else?

I'm in the process of finding out about salaries for the supervisors, teachers and proofreaders of overseas MTs, but judging from the caliber of those doing it and what I know so far, it is on American standards.

Actually I think our concern for American salaries being affected is the same concern as for those in other countries who lack the opportunities we have, not for ourselves, because these changes will only affect the lower third of the MTs who make $7-10 an hour, I think. What I mean is, we should consider ourselves in the leadership (by virtue of being online and what that probably indicates about our professional abilities), not those likely to be the victims. Thus we can afford to think through these questions from the standpoint of what is good for both the patients of the country and the world, and for MTs. This field of national and world health care is in such a time of accelerated change. New jobs are being created suitable for MTs. For instance, computerized medical records and all the possibilities that brings for companies keeping medical records available for any patient anywhere in the world anytime; web sites and all the medical information flowing...I know one MT we've "lost" or who has graduated on to be an Internet employee putting up web pages (not me!). In fact, I'll wager that the shortage of MTs is going to get greater as we lose people to MT teaching, supervising, consulting, starting businesses, creating software, researching, writing, selling, marketing, editing, web-site creating and maintaining. Maybe we should be asking how can we keep MTs from leaving! No, maybe we have to keep perspective on the large question, and our own unique opportunities and abilities. I think we can do well AND do noble things!

There are so many things MTs can "graduate" to...those of you who are well experienced surely have said no to other things in order to stick to transcribing, I certainly have. My web site has become like a portfolio! When I get inquiries, I explain my role as MT for money and networking facilitator for the adventure. I would be useless as a networker if I was no longer doing MT in the trenches; there's a bond between those of us who "suffer" the endurance test of this work, and we know others don't know what it feels like by the eighth and ninth hour.


From: Bill Lupinacci, 76520.1354@compuserve.com (reprinted with permission from Bill Lupinacci)
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Many transcription companies have begun shipping work overseas. Security is simply not a problem if implemented properly. Now that PC-based dictation machines allow for the digital transport of digitized voice across computer networks, shipping work overseas is technologically easy. The hard part is kick-backs, political instability, finding a company that knows how to implement the technology, getting good rates on overseas phone lines, and filling up those lines with as much digitized voice as possible.

If the service employs state-of-the-art compression, an hour's worth of physician dictation can be transported on a T-1 line in 33 seconds, and an hour's worth of physician dictation can be transported on an ISDN line in 7.3 minutes Transcriptionists in third world countries who speak great English make as little as $50 per month.

The Internet is a cheap transport option but can be very, very slow at times. Digitized voice has to be specially encoded and decoded to make it across the Internet (which makes the files bigger) and this slows things down even more.

Unfortunately, like it or not, transcription work headed beyond our borders is going to continue, and it is going to continue to increase in volume. Fortunately, there is plenty that work-at-home US transcriptionists can do to combat this threat:

1. Asking the service you work for, flat out, what their plans are for overseas labor. If they have such plans, start looking around.

2. Use technology (that benefits patient or doctor) not readily available overseas as soon as you can afford it. Examples: Avoid service companies that route either the dictation, transcription or both, through the service company instead of letting the work flow directly between you and the doctor. Transcription companies who do it this way pay double to the phone company (once between them and the doctor and once between them and you). Service companies or independents who go duirectly between doctor and transcriptionist have a lower cost base and faster turnaround time and can therefore compete better. Anyone doing work overseas almost has to route work to a central office before shipping it overseas, so they have to introduce delays and costs associated with a two-step movement of dictation and transcription.

Buy technology that lets you move voice digitally between you and the doctor. Imagine instead of returning a blank for some undecipherable phrase the doctor uttered, you could return the transcript with the undecipherable phrase imbedded in it for the doc to listen to and either rerecord what he said for you or fix it there. Imagine a doctor being able to highlight a section of transcript on screen and dictate a correction that comes back to you as a highlighted wordprocessing file with the doctors voice attached to the highlighted sentences so you can listen to the correction while editing the transcript. These are just some examples of what is coming very soon to systems that move voice digitally between doctor and transcriptionist.

Use ISDN lines to move voice between doctor and transcriptionist. It is extremely expensive to route ISDN overseas. But in the U.S. you can transmit an hour's worth of physician dictation to a transcriptionist in well-under 8 minutes. Here in Bell Atlantic territory, ISDN is $35 per month and 4 cents per minute for measured usage. You will be able to compete in terms of telephone line costs if use use this kind of technology. There are many other technology examples.

3. Take advantage of your local proximity to have personal encounters with your customers whenever possible. Use these opportunities to find out how you can serve them better.

4. Take advantage of medical information sources not readily available overseas.

The world economy is going to level out some no matter what we do. Its our challange not to dig in our heels and say, "Buy American" and hope for the best; but rather, to make sure that we are better educated, better informed, better equipped, more quality conscious, and less burdened with overhead than our foreign competition. Because if we have all of that, cheap labor alone won't take them very far.


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